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		<title>By: WEIRDness, Ecumenical Councils and the Marriage Institution &#124; Tipsy Teetotaler</title>
		<link>http://neuroanthropology.net/2010/07/10/we-agree-its-weird-but-is-it-weird-enough/#comment-34943</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WEIRDness, Ecumenical Councils and the Marriage Institution &#124; Tipsy Teetotaler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] (Neuroanthropology blog.) We are the world&#8217;s outliers in how we see, emote, evaluate and generally interact with the cosmos. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Who are the weird? &#124; Medical Anthropology at Oakland U.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] always incisive neuroanthropology blog has done a great job of giving an overview of the review article, as well as pointing out some of the problems inherent [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;W.E.I.R.D&#8221; Or &#8220;Unequivocally Better?&#8221; &#124; Brown Pundits</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] gauge the perceptions and moral reasoning (let alone function!) of people in non-Western societies (WesternEducatedIndustrializedRichandDemocratic.)  Ethan Watters, in PSMag, tells the tale of Joe Henrich, who developed this theory while studying [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Patterns of Culture: Ruth Benedict &#124; ...» Talented HR &#124; Talented HR</title>
		<link>http://neuroanthropology.net/2010/07/10/we-agree-its-weird-but-is-it-weird-enough/#comment-34472</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patterns of Culture: Ruth Benedict &#124; ...» Talented HR &#124; Talented HR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] everyone is now calling the WEIRD, Western Educated Industrial Rich Democratic. Greg Downey’s We agree it’s WEIRD, but is it WEIRD enough? remains the best analysis. As Downey puts it, “I worry that some of our cultural ideology and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] everyone is now calling the WEIRD, Western Educated Industrial Rich Democratic. Greg Downey’s We agree it’s WEIRD, but is it WEIRD enough? remains the best analysis. As Downey puts it, “I worry that some of our cultural ideology and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ds</title>
		<link>http://neuroanthropology.net/2010/07/10/we-agree-its-weird-but-is-it-weird-enough/#comment-33822</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 03:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;That is, you can’t strategically retreat to abstract high ground as soon as you’re challenged empirically on sloppy universalisms only to boldly foray forth into the land of blanket statements about more detailed characteristics of ‘human nature’ as soon as you think no one is watching.

What I don’t get, I guess, is the defensiveness. Are the knee-jerk universalists worried that, if we concede that there might be fundamental variation in humans, we inevitably move toward racism? If so, we’re in trouble. Do they think that the existence of human genes means that we must necessarily be a species of genetic clones?&lt;/b&gt;

I totally agree that we&#039;re not a clonal species, but I still think that it&#039;s more parsimonious not to assume that non-universals are rooted in genetic determination. Speaking of &quot;universals&quot; and lack thereof, culture probably is the most/only constant universal, and also the key factor for everything that is not. 

Whenever genetic determinism/strong enough influence seems to really be the case, the odds just happen to be that it wouldn&#039;t so much of a racial thing, as most of human genetic variation is shared by all races. It could still be the case that sometimes there would be non-universals that are considerably genetically based and such genes are found in significantly differing frequencies along the races, though. But I think that the odds would be that it&#039;s quite rare, possibly something that &quot;does not even occur&quot;, or that is dwarfed by the role of shared genes that are more evenly distributed, and sheer non-genetic determination.

I have this suspicion/gut feeling that perhaps the most significant form of &quot;genetic determinism&quot; in racial/group differences would be something like the cultural adoption of &quot;behaviors&quot; that are genetically influenced in some individuals, who happened to be more &quot;culturally influential&quot; for whatever reason. Not necessarily at an &quot;individual&quot; level anyway, they don&#039;t need to be &quot;celebrities&quot; of any kind, nor the first ones who copy their behavior. It is not rigidly dependent of the allelic frequencies. It could happen that the cultural influence outlives the meaningful frequencies of the influential alleles. Or even that the cultural influence grows throughout the population regardless of the negligible frequency of the influential genetic variation, that may be rare from the start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>That is, you can’t strategically retreat to abstract high ground as soon as you’re challenged empirically on sloppy universalisms only to boldly foray forth into the land of blanket statements about more detailed characteristics of ‘human nature’ as soon as you think no one is watching.</p>
<p>What I don’t get, I guess, is the defensiveness. Are the knee-jerk universalists worried that, if we concede that there might be fundamental variation in humans, we inevitably move toward racism? If so, we’re in trouble. Do they think that the existence of human genes means that we must necessarily be a species of genetic clones?</b></p>
<p>I totally agree that we&#8217;re not a clonal species, but I still think that it&#8217;s more parsimonious not to assume that non-universals are rooted in genetic determination. Speaking of &#8220;universals&#8221; and lack thereof, culture probably is the most/only constant universal, and also the key factor for everything that is not. </p>
<p>Whenever genetic determinism/strong enough influence seems to really be the case, the odds just happen to be that it wouldn&#8217;t so much of a racial thing, as most of human genetic variation is shared by all races. It could still be the case that sometimes there would be non-universals that are considerably genetically based and such genes are found in significantly differing frequencies along the races, though. But I think that the odds would be that it&#8217;s quite rare, possibly something that &#8220;does not even occur&#8221;, or that is dwarfed by the role of shared genes that are more evenly distributed, and sheer non-genetic determination.</p>
<p>I have this suspicion/gut feeling that perhaps the most significant form of &#8220;genetic determinism&#8221; in racial/group differences would be something like the cultural adoption of &#8220;behaviors&#8221; that are genetically influenced in some individuals, who happened to be more &#8220;culturally influential&#8221; for whatever reason. Not necessarily at an &#8220;individual&#8221; level anyway, they don&#8217;t need to be &#8220;celebrities&#8221; of any kind, nor the first ones who copy their behavior. It is not rigidly dependent of the allelic frequencies. It could happen that the cultural influence outlives the meaningful frequencies of the influential alleles. Or even that the cultural influence grows throughout the population regardless of the negligible frequency of the influential genetic variation, that may be rare from the start.</p>
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		<title>By: The Conference Formerly Known as Oakland, day 1 &#124; Owl’s Portfolio</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] done social science research, where we worry about external validity all the time (and even then perhaps not enough). Working on computers it’s easier to set up perfectly controlled lab experiments of questionable [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Why don&#8217;t more working-class people vote conservative? &#124; Speculative Thinker</title>
		<link>http://neuroanthropology.net/2010/07/10/we-agree-its-weird-but-is-it-weird-enough/#comment-29062</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why don&#8217;t more working-class people vote conservative? &#124; Speculative Thinker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 09:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] sense, tells us that we cannot run a society without these things, even if a small minority of &#8220;WEIRD&#8221; people are wealthy enough to discard them; we are too innately [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sense, tells us that we cannot run a society without these things, even if a small minority of &#8220;WEIRD&#8221; people are wealthy enough to discard them; we are too innately [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why don't more working-class people vote Conservative? &#8211; Telegraph Blogs</title>
		<link>http://neuroanthropology.net/2010/07/10/we-agree-its-weird-but-is-it-weird-enough/#comment-29013</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why don't more working-class people vote Conservative? &#8211; Telegraph Blogs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] sense, tells us that we cannot run a society without these things, even if a small minority of &quot;WEIRD&quot; people are wealthy enough to discard them; we are too innately [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 01:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s all well and good, but the goal of psychological research is often to identify innate tendencies and functions of the human mind/psyche. If, and it seems this is indeed the case, other cultures vary tremendously from ours in these areas it means that behavior patters or other traits that we originally thought were innate are not, which is important information for any field that claims to be discovering innate tendencies. 

It is also bizarre to try to argue that we should consider westerners as being more normal simply because they are more wealthy. What sort of logic is that? How arbitrary. 
There is nothing defeatist in noting that among human beings as a whole, westerners comprise a minority and at times display atypical behavior. It is not a value judgment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s all well and good, but the goal of psychological research is often to identify innate tendencies and functions of the human mind/psyche. If, and it seems this is indeed the case, other cultures vary tremendously from ours in these areas it means that behavior patters or other traits that we originally thought were innate are not, which is important information for any field that claims to be discovering innate tendencies. </p>
<p>It is also bizarre to try to argue that we should consider westerners as being more normal simply because they are more wealthy. What sort of logic is that? How arbitrary.<br />
There is nothing defeatist in noting that among human beings as a whole, westerners comprise a minority and at times display atypical behavior. It is not a value judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bias in SONA &#171; Bloggenrolla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bias in SONA &#171; Bloggenrolla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This idea was originally created by Henrich et. al. A summary of their paper can be found here (http://neuroanthropology.net/2010/07/10/we-agree-its-weird-but-is-it-weird-enough/). Coupling the implications of sampling bias with the assumptions of &#8220;WEIRD&#8221; students, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This idea was originally created by Henrich et. al. A summary of their paper can be found here (<a href="http://neuroanthropology.net/2010/07/10/we-agree-its-weird-but-is-it-weird-enough/" rel="nofollow">http://neuroanthropology.net/2010/07/10/we-agree-its-weird-but-is-it-weird-enough/</a>). Coupling the implications of sampling bias with the assumptions of &#8220;WEIRD&#8221; students, [...]</p>
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