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		<title>By: Sapir-Whorf hypothesis was right&#8230; about adults &#171; Neuroanthropology</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sapir-Whorf hypothesis was right&#8230; about adults &#171; Neuroanthropology]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] abstract). We&#8217;ve had a number of related posts on Neuroanthropology, including Daniel&#8217;s Language and Color, and my piece that the title of this one references, Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is right… sort [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] abstract). We&#8217;ve had a number of related posts on Neuroanthropology, including Daniel&#8217;s Language and Color, and my piece that the title of this one references, Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is right… sort [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Denial &#171; Neuroanthropology</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] meaning, and thought, and (2) self and social relations.  (For the first, see the post on Language and Color, and for the second, on Loneliness and Health.)  For example, in my class some students emphasized [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: gregdowney</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating paper in PNAS!  Thanks for pointing it out, Daniel.  I taught a section on color perception when I did a course, &#039;Anthropology of Perception,&#039; at Columbia University WAAAAAY back in 2000.  At the time, there was fascinating stuff out on color perception, responses to Berlin and Kay&#039;s Basic Color Terms (1969).  It was one of the more fascinating week&#039;s worth of reading, and it sounds like the area of research is still generating new discoveries.

My one issue with this is that there seems to be slight shortcut being taken when the authors (and Lera Boroditsky in the interview) say that &#039;language&#039; causes the difference in perceptions.  I would argue that they probably should use the more open term, &#039;linguistic practice&#039; or &#039;language use.&#039;  It&#039;s not just that &#039;language&#039; makes the distinction; it&#039;s probably also that people using the language get lots of practice making the perceptual distinction.  Linking the abstraction, &#039;language,&#039; to the effect of changed perception, seems to be a minor, but problematic, little slip in the explanation.  I think that my reservations are entirely consistent with pragmatic linguistic anthropology, including much of what Sapir and Whorf were arguing, but it seems to me to be an important distinction.

More importantly, how nice to see a researcher like Boroditsky, and the others that Edge talked to, discussing how research has changed their theoretical opinions.  It&#039;s certainly been my experience, and it&#039;s an important thing for younger scholars to know.  It was one of the thing I always really admired about some of my professors at the University of Chicago; they had been around long enough, and been prolific long enough, that the change in their thinking was public.  The ones who acknowledged it and discussed it were great role models for treating anthropology as an unfinished science, learning and developing better paradigms for understanding human diversity.

Like always, Daniel, thanks for the posting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating paper in PNAS!  Thanks for pointing it out, Daniel.  I taught a section on color perception when I did a course, &#8216;Anthropology of Perception,&#8217; at Columbia University WAAAAAY back in 2000.  At the time, there was fascinating stuff out on color perception, responses to Berlin and Kay&#8217;s Basic Color Terms (1969).  It was one of the more fascinating week&#8217;s worth of reading, and it sounds like the area of research is still generating new discoveries.</p>
<p>My one issue with this is that there seems to be slight shortcut being taken when the authors (and Lera Boroditsky in the interview) say that &#8216;language&#8217; causes the difference in perceptions.  I would argue that they probably should use the more open term, &#8216;linguistic practice&#8217; or &#8216;language use.&#8217;  It&#8217;s not just that &#8216;language&#8217; makes the distinction; it&#8217;s probably also that people using the language get lots of practice making the perceptual distinction.  Linking the abstraction, &#8216;language,&#8217; to the effect of changed perception, seems to be a minor, but problematic, little slip in the explanation.  I think that my reservations are entirely consistent with pragmatic linguistic anthropology, including much of what Sapir and Whorf were arguing, but it seems to me to be an important distinction.</p>
<p>More importantly, how nice to see a researcher like Boroditsky, and the others that Edge talked to, discussing how research has changed their theoretical opinions.  It&#8217;s certainly been my experience, and it&#8217;s an important thing for younger scholars to know.  It was one of the thing I always really admired about some of my professors at the University of Chicago; they had been around long enough, and been prolific long enough, that the change in their thinking was public.  The ones who acknowledged it and discussed it were great role models for treating anthropology as an unfinished science, learning and developing better paradigms for understanding human diversity.</p>
<p>Like always, Daniel, thanks for the posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was just trying the experiment described in Kay and Kempton&#039;s 1984 piece on &quot;What is the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis&quot; in my language class this week (where the existence of a linguistic distinction between blue and green appears to influence discriminations among three color chips among English speakers).  Interesting to read this so soon afterwards!]]></description>
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